Tech companies that value work/life balance for their engineers

Work/life balance is precisely why we started this company.

When we started in 2000, engineers were often siloed. There seemed to be a lack of respect for both the work engineers were doing and their balance between work and personal commitments. Carbon Five was founded by a group who saw value in people’s ability to focus very intensely during the day and then completely unplug at night. To us, work/life balance means that when you come into work, you work hard and when you’re done, you’re completely done. You get to work on really interesting things without the overhead of politics, harsh deadlines, working weekends, or pagerduty. This holds true even after 20 years in the business and now with a team of 70+ software engineers, designers, product managers, and an operations crew spanning our U.S. offices.

We also offer sabbaticals. One of the benefits of being a consulting company is that it’s natural and easy for people to take time off. After one project ends, there’s a wrap up period, which provides an opportunity to take time off without disruption. Once you’ve been with the company for two years, you can take three months off (unpaid). It is an uninterrupted block of time that people use to spend the entire summer with their kids, surf, launch an album, or go rock climbing.

We know you’re more effective when you can take time off and recharge, so we have 4-day workweeks.

For over three years, our team members have worked 4-day workweeks. Building a growing startup, it is more important that you’re making the right decisions or taking calculated risks than writing more lines of code.

Just before the COVID-19 pandemic, we decided to ditch the office altogether and be fully distributed. We found that we were all equally productive at home and the flexibility gave us even more opportunities to recharge and bring our best selves to work. The default day off is Wednesday (aka mid-weekend), which makes our team super fresh on Thursdays. That said, we are flexible if you want to take a long weekend and work Wednesday once in a while.

People always ask how we are able to successfully work 4-day workweeks and still scale the business, and the truth is we practice what we preach. Having that extra time off enables us to be more impactful overall. In fact, we recently closed a $7.4M Series A and are continuing to hire!

We work hard, but believe everyone should lead full lives outside of the office, too.

Whether you’d prefer to be in our Seattle office or work from home, engineers have the flexibility to work wherever they’d like. As a distributed team that spans the globe, we have coverage across different time zones. For example, Cynthia (director of product management) lives on the east coast and prefers to start her day around 11am and finish later in the evening so she can help homeschool her son in the morning. That said, if you’re on the east coast and prefer to work 9-5, we encourage that too. “My team spans Seattle, England, and New Zealand, so we’re very conscious and accommodating of each other’s schedules,” says Thien-Kim (TK) (director of product management). Core meetings happen during overlapping periods of time (a small window that depends on your team’s schedule), but otherwise we trust you to get your work done when it suits you best.

In addition to 18 paid holidays and flexible time off (that people actually use!), engineers typically work ~40hr weeks. To keep our on-call system fair for everyone, we regularly rotate the schedule and have a bidding, auction-like system for holidays. Whatever your passions are outside of the office, we want you to take time to enjoy them, too. For example, Edgar, an interview engineer coordinator, is an avid photographer and Jason (staff software engineer) is passionate about puzzling. We also have several talented musicians on the team.

For us, work-life balance isn’t just proverbial time in and out of the office, we also believe in engineers having heads-down time during the workday. In fact, engineers block this time on their calendars and are very diligent about respecting it. That said, we also value time together in-person, and regularly have team bonding events and offsites (like ski trips or summer get-togethers) when it’s safe to do so.

We trust everyone at Change.org to manage their time in the way that best suits their work and personal lives.

As a company, we place a premium on fostering healthy work/life balance, whether you’re working remotely or from one of our offices. All full-time employees receive unlimited PTO. We encourage people to use it and do not expect anyone to be on call or answering emails while taking PTO. In fact, we respect PTO so much that we'll discourage you from doing any work while you're off! We know taking time off is necessary, and the only way to return to work feeling rejuvenated is if you leave work at work. What’s more, the office environment supports flexibility; it’s common for team members to head out to exercise during the day or take care of a personal errand at their leisure. For those working from home, we offer a robust home office setup. All employees are encouraged to request any item(s) and supplies that can help make their work from home experience more comfortable and productive! At the minimum, this includes: a desk chair, a large monitor, keyboard, mouse, and desk.

Our focus on work/life balance makes Change.org a great place for people with children, too. We support mothers and fathers who are going through the everyday ups and downs of parenting by letting them create their own schedule. As an exceptional added benefit, both moms and dads get 18 weeks paid parental leave when a baby joins the family. You’ll often see special appearances of our beloved Change.org kids (and dogs!) popping into the frame on video calls when meetings occur from home.

You are more than your job.

You can’t be at your best if you’re not taking care of yourself and your family. We encourage each other to recharge and remind one another to take advantage of NerdWallet’s health and wellbeing benefits including gym membership, 100% paid family leave, and our Flexible Time Off (FTO) policy. So long as we are considerate of our coworkers and stakeholders, letting them know in advance when we take time away, everyone should be sure to unplug and disconnect from time to time. We trust team members will use FTO responsibly, meaning that no one abuses it and everyone uses it.

All of our teams have flexible working hours and we regularly hold offsites and other social events to take a break from day-to-day responsibilities together. Most engineers are on-call monthly, though it’s pretty quiet. There are still occasions where teams have to make a big push, but these are the exception and not the rule.

A big part of how we think about work/life balance is reflected in how we think about our workplace. We are committed to building and fostering an inclusive community for everyone. We have Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) like NerdOut (who provide a community and host on-site events for our LGBTQ nerds), NerdWomen, and Women in Engineering and Data. People can participate in ERGs by leading them, becoming a member, or being an ally to the ERG. Finally, we also arrange volunteering events through our community service group and field company teams for basketball, soccer, softball, and even cornhole. There are countless things to bond over, and we welcome them all!

We know you do your best work when you’re not overworked.

We believe in providing a flexible and low-stress work environment. We do an anonymous survey of the team to make sure we’re keeping a sustainable pace, and most engineers work 40-hour weeks. No one is expected to work late or on weekends and in addition to 3 weeks of vacation, we shut down for the week between Christmas and New Year’s. Culture is also a great place for engineers looking to grow their families – we offer 12 weeks of paid parental leave for any parent who works here, regardless of caregiver status (including adoptions).

We recognize that for many people, Culture will be a stepping stone in your career. Our goal is to help you think through where you are now, where you’d like to go, and then help you build the skills, expertise, and experiences to get there. Your time here should be a two-way street, where you feel engaged in the work and supported as you grow, even if it’s into your next move. One way we’ll measure our success is through all of the great things our former employees go on to do.

We intentionally do not serve dinner in the office.

A typical engineer will work 7-8 hours a day in the office. We don’t have set hours, but typically people are in the office from 9-5. The expectation is that you will work hard and effectively, but not on a particular schedule. There is no expectation that you will work nights or weekends. There is occasional work from home left to the engineer's discretion, but we want everyone to be in the office everyday as we primarily collaborate in person. We have a rotating on-call schedule where every engineer will be on-call 24/7 for a week at a time to act as first responder to critical problems in production.

Our entire company will get together for quarterly 'hangs'. In the past this has included a 3-day trip (Wednesday through Friday) to Tahoe and Santa Cruz, team dinners, and mini-golf.

Fridays are reserved for personal development.

Engineers typically work 8-hour days. There’s no expectation of an on-call schedule and we never ask you to work on weekends or holidays. We don't manage hosting ourselves, and set the expectation with our clients that we will respond to code issues during business hours. That said, teams manage their own schedules and deliverables, so of course, it’s possible that during particularly busy weeks this can lead to spillover and some people might work outside of typical hours to have time for deep work. However, these overages are almost always self-inflicted, and if we notice it becoming a trend for anyone, we have direct conversations to make sure they know it should be a very rare occurrence. This comes from the top, from people that have worked in environments where burnout is the norm, and with full knowledge that dedicating 24/7 to anything is damaging not only to your mental well-being but also to your creative output and quality.

What’s more, we reserve Fridays for personal development, with the goal of building new skills and improving Upstatement as a whole. For example, a recent “semester” of Upstatement Fridays involved 10 projects with team sizes ranging from 3-6 people. Project types included marketing/publicity, product, and self-care. We've used this time to make improvements to upstatement.com, to explore new topics like Machine Learning, to create and improve internal tools and processes, and as outreach for our Friday speaker series.

We also allow for an "Independent Study," which is a lot more free form. For instance, one engineer chose to focus on writing blog posts. This personal development time is communicated upfront with our client teams from day one, so everyone is respectful of these boundaries.

Finally, we also close between Christmas and New Year’s Day to give everyone that extra time to recharge!

We strongly believe that to be productive at work, you need to live your life in balance.

We built this into the culture from day one, ensuring everything from time in the office to vacation policy supports this. Yes, we occasionally need to sprint hard, but we rest up to make sure we have the energy to do so.

We have an unlimited vacation policy, and our Chief Product Officer sets an example from the top by actually taking PTO. We encourage folks to take at least four weeks per year, and many take up to six. We know how important it is to unwind away from the office and will gently chide someone (we’re looking at you Brian 👀😂) if they haven’t taken a vacation in a while. The office also largely shuts down around the December holidays.

We value new parents, and with our paid leave policy (12 weeks for the birth parent and 6 weeks for the non-birthing parent), we’re flexible about doing it all at once, parceling it out over time, or tapering back into work with a few days per week and extended work-from-home.

Symbio advocates taking time away from work to rest, recharge, and reconnect.

While we have ambitious goals at Symbio – and lots to do in order to reach them – it’s important to us that everyone thrives both in and out of the office. Typical work hours are 10am-6pm PST, but we’re flexible. Prefer to get an earlier start or work later in the day? Are you one of our teammates in a different time zone? As long as you’re available for meetings and getting the work done, we trust you to manage your schedule. By communicating frequently and respecting each others’ time we strive to enable a healthy work/life balance.

What’s more, with our unlimited vacation policy, we encourage people to take the time off they need to show up refreshed. Our team members have hobbies ranging from rock climbing to archery, music production, cooking, and more. As we grow, we’re committed to keeping the pace sustainable (and part of that means we’re hiring accordingly!). We work hard but enjoy taking time to bond as a team. We loved throwing parties in our common space pre-pandemic, and it’s something we’re excited about doing again when it’s safe.

Your best work happens when you are refreshed, so we play the long game.

We have a flexible vacation policy, and when we’re physically at the office, we love having Flexpups (Flexport puppies) around. In the spirit of friendly competition, we have board game night every other Wednesday. During the pandemic, teams did virtual cooking classes, virtual escape rooms, lightning talks, virtual paint and sip, virtual scavenger hunts, and virtual pictionary. We look forward to camping, biking, hiking, and rafting together again.

We’re careful not to praise over-working.

Everyone has their own preferences for when and how they work best. We have team-based standups at the beginning of the week (i.e. engineering or product) and a company-wide all-hands at the end of the week. Beyond that, it’s up to teams to self-organize. Even once we’re a much larger company, we want each team to create a personalized meeting schedule based on team members’ needs and preferences, with a few exceptions of timezone-friendly company-wide events. Generally speaking though, we want you to work whenever that makes sense for you.

Having experienced burnout before firsthand (a topic Dan is especially happy to discuss), we’re really careful not to praise over-working. We are well aware that, sometimes, people are motivated to stay late and work long hours. We certainly won’t discourage anyone to stop working when inspiration strikes, but we also don’t expect this type of behavior. We want everyone we work with to feel energized at work and also have time for their out-of-the-office hobbies. Whatever your passions are outside of work, we want you to enjoy them! (For Fouad, that means trying new recipes. He loves to cook!)

Trade-offs: We believe people are most productive when they’re fulfilled during and outside of work, and that starts with having enough time to enjoy life away from the computer. There will be an endless stream of important tasks and it’s our responsibility as a team to identify the few truly urgent issues from the ones that we can pick up as a group on Monday.

We are a 40-hours per week company.

There’s no need to read between the lines: a full work week is 40 hours at BombBomb and nothing more. If someone really wants to work beyond that, we won’t discourage you, but there is absolutely no unspoken expectation to do so. Due to the high amount of ownership we have, any outages that take place will require your attention whether they happen during the weekend or late at night. That said, we do our best to prevent these from taking place at all. We have over 60,000 active customers who have recorded over 8 million videos on BombBomb, and we want to deliver a reliable product.

Overall, we are very flexible about when, where, and how much you work so long as the work is getting done. For example, some team members have opted to trade a Tuesday for a Saturday from time to time in order to get out skiing while others are working. Our engineering philosophy is that you know when you’re your best, and we trust you to tap into that for your work. If you need to be moving kids around, or keeping an eye on them due to some circumstance, do that, because otherwise you’re going to be distracted and off-kilter.

We’d also like to think that we balance work and life well as a company, too. We have monthly company-provided lunch (the first Friday of each month) and at the end of every week, we have BombBomb Friday from 4pm to 5pm. We also play bingo once a month (our Valentine’s Day bingo is pictured below) and everyone is always welcome to invite their significant others and friends as well!

Engineers at the company who have worked in a variety of startup environments confirm that Curai's work/life balance and flexibility are highlights of the Curai experience.

There are many reasons for this, but one forcing function is what we call "stage of life diversity" – some of our team members are fresh out of college while others have two kids in college, so as a team we are very respectful of coworkers' boundaries and commitments outside of work. Many of our team members have time-intensive hobbies that they are immensely passionate about, too, which we love! We think that being able to be your full self outside of work allows you to bring your best self to work. Those based in the U.S. align (loosely) around a 10 am to 5 pm Pacific Time working schedule and almost all engineers take weekends as a time to unplug and recharge.

We want you to thrive both in and out of the office.

Maintaining satisfaction at work is one of our company objectives, just like maintaining and improving our private search engine. We trust you to use good judgement and encourage you to take as much time off as you need to bring your best self to work. Our CEO, Gabe, makes sure to set a good example by taking regular vacations and encouraging the rest of the team to do the same. We also offer a $1000 annual wellness stipend, which you can use on things like a gym membership, yoga classes, counseling (e.g., mental health, nutrition), athletic activities, or equipment (e.g., treadmill, dumbbells).

Since we’ve been fully distributed from the start, we prioritize a work/life balance that keeps the pace sustainable but also leaves time for your personal hobbies and passions. That said, we reserve time for connection during work hours, too. For example, we use Zoom for weekly 30-minute “Neighbors” calls with four or five randomly selected team members to get to know each other better. Similarly, a weekly “Know Your Company” thread in Asana invites everyone to share opinions, photos, and experiences about a given subject. Previous topics have included everything from pet showcases to favorite relaxation music and travel stories. The “DuckDuckGo Coffeehouse” (a Zoom room open 24/7) is also great if you just want to pop in for a quick work break, though it’s usually busiest after our Friday all-hands meeting.

We also have more structured social clubs, called Guilds. For instance, the Writers Anonymous Guild meets on Zoom for weekly write-ins, where members make progress on their novels, comic books, or short stories. The Random Acts of Learning Guild hosts monthly meetings, inviting subject matter experts (both internal and external) to speak about their work or field of study.

We also love meeting up in person when we can, too. We host annual company retreats, team meetups, and optional “work-ations” where you can work with colleagues in various destinations around the world.

We lead with as much flexibility as possible.

We want you to bring your best self to work and have time to enjoy your hobbies and passions outside of the office, too. Many of our employees have an active photography practice, and we also have musicians, artists, archers, gamers, roboticists, and more. As a company, we prioritize a healthy work/life balance. In addition to unlimited PTO for exempt employees, we always try to be as flexible and accommodating as possible to support family needs or different schedules. As a distributed team spanning several time zones, we leave work schedules to you and your manager.

We recognize disconnecting can sometimes be challenging and that the added stressors of a global pandemic and racial injustice make taking time off for self-care even more important. That’s why we created a “Day for Me” mental health day, where you take a day off to do whatever makes you happy and allows you to recharge (the idea was a hit, so we’re now doing a few throughout the year). In addition to the typical bank holidays, we also observe Juneteenth, World Mental Health Day, and Election Day. We also host externally- and employee-led workshops on topics that help promote our mental and physical health to keep the pace sustainable proactively.

We protect our weekends and everyone works from home on Wednesdays!

We want you to enjoy all aspects of your life at ReadMe, not just your work. Our friends, families, health, and hobbies are important to us! You don’t need an excuse to work from home or go climbing during daylight hours (like Kanad does), and we genuinely encourage everyone to take advantage of their $150/month gym membership stipend. We offer full medical, dental, and vision coverage as well as paid parental leave.

No one works late at ReadMe, and our Slack channels go silent on weekends.. Luckily, our customers use ReadMe during typical work hours, which means traffic is highest during the weekdays and lower on the weekends. As a result, issues rarely take place during weekends or holidays, engineers don’t need to dread being on-call, and we can all truly take days off.

During the week, we like to spend time not working, too! We host movie nights and plan activities (like owl painting!) because we enjoy spending time together (and we love our mascot, Owlbert). Last but not least, we also go on quarterly offsites to make sure we mix play and work together as a team. In the past, we’ve gone to Hawaii, Austin, Chicago, Boston, Disneyland, and Lake Tahoe. We have a tradition of getting custom prints for each location we go to and having everyone who was there sign them.

We work hard, but make sure no one is in danger of burning out.

While we have ambitious goals at Qualia – and plenty to do before we reach them – it’s important to us that everyone leads full lives outside of the office. While the team works San Francisco hours, we trust our engineers to manage their own time and work.

We also provide a benefits package designed with the health and happiness of our employees in mind. Our flexible time off policy allows people to take time away from the office to recharge, both physically and mentally. Qualia also offers a 401k program to help with financial planning and generous parental leave for teammates with growing families. While we’re remote during COVID-19, we also provide daily meditation sessions, online fitness challenges, and a variety of internal virtual clubs such as our diversity, equity, and inclusion book club.

Like our patients, we take care of our whole selves, too.

We know you’re more effective when you have time off to recharge and spend on the things you’re passionate about. It’s very rare that you’ll work more than 40 hours per week. We’re very intentional about how we plan our work, leaving enough slack in the system so we almost never have fire drills that require you to be online at midnight or scrambling for an entire week.

One of our software engineers, Laura, wanted to find a job that prioritized work/life balance. As a new mom-to-be, this was top of mind for her. As she puts it, “When I reviewed the Iora Culture Book, I immediately noticed the presence of families and children in the employee photos – and I knew right then that I would belong.”

It’s fair to say that the pandemic presented a challenge not just for our providers and patients, but also for us as employees. For instance, one of our product managers, Eliot, has two young daughters who needed his support when their schools transitioned to online learning. Rather than trying to figure out if it should be time off or time away, we simply trusted Eliot to manage his own schedule and figure out what worked best for him and his team.

A family-friendly, results-based management culture

Angaza offers flexible PTO (most people take around four weeks a year), paid parental leave (six weeks for all new parents and an additional six weeks for mothers giving birth), and an effective distributed culture that permits remote work. If you have any questions about working here while raising a family, you can ask one of the many Angazans who do.

As a broader team, we value personal connection. We get together in person when we can. We’ve played arcade games together, conquered escape rooms, gathered for picnics, and played frisbee. We hold regular team board game and movie nights. Within the company, you’ll often hear Angazans talking about “embracing their inner tembo”: this one of our five core company values. Tembo is the Swahili word for elephant. We take the mentality of being a part of the herd and supporting everyone in it.

We bring our best selves to work.

We have a high degree of trust in one another and each person’s capabilities. So as long as you get your work done, or communicate why you are blocked and ask for help, we don’t care how or where you do your work. We work intensely and effectively during normal working weekday hours, and then leave work to recharge on our own time. Having a balanced life outside of work only benefits the company because we believe this contributes to happy, healthy, productive people and therefore, more productive teams.

People are not expected to work weekends unless there is an emergency, hours are flexible able to accommodate child care needs and we are all free to choose where we work from. That said, we try to keep as many hours overlapping with the team as possible in order to facilitate real-time collaboration.

Outside of work, people love being in the great outdoors, traveling to places near and far, eating delicious food, spending time with family, playing music and playing sports. We love staying active, snowboarding, playing badminton, cycling, surfing, and hiking. Not only do we love food, but some of us also really enjoy cooking it! We have supportive and growing families who motivate us and help us to be our best selves. They play an important role in making us successful as a company and as a team.

Whatever helps you recharge, we want you to have the time and space to do it. It is truly the best way to drive creativity, collaboration, and productivity in your work!

There’s no regular weekend work expected – we actively work against that.

Our goal is to grow sustainably, which means ensuring good work/life balance. For the most part, no regular weekend work is expected, and we’re actively working to limit that. The only exception is for teams that own services which get paged more frequently, meaning some engineers might need to be on-call on weekends. However, we’re investing in our tech to decrease issues like this and minimize any hours outside the typical work week.

We also want you to feel free to do your best work wherever that might be. All engineers can work remotely. Or, if you live near one of our offices and prefer to work there (when it’s safe to do so), that’s fine too!

While we work hard, we also make time to have some fun and decompress, with activities like weekly crosswords, guided yoga and meditation, virtual happy hours, and team building events such as “show & tell,” “stand-downs” for purely social conversation, and online games.

Our most popular Slack channels include #babies, #plants, and #gratitude (where people shout each other out and celebrate accomplishments). When a new addition joins your family, we offer 12 weeks paid leave for the primary caregiver, and 8 weeks for the secondary caregiver.

CircleCI also currently sponsors four Employee Resource Groups (ERGs), including CircleSHEi, Queersphere, The Onyx Circle, and Circle Minds, which focuses on mental wellness and neurodiversity. These groups meet regularly to discuss the individual needs of each group, any corporate policies or benefits that need to be in place, and what the company can do to better meet their needs.

You can read more about why Forbes named CircleCI one of America’s Best Startup Employers in 2021 here.

We had a heated debate about whether to choose this value. Let us explain:

Some people consider work/life balance to mean working 40 hours (or less) per week. You won’t find that here at Let’s Do This. Our hours are long, but we also find it difficult to say when exactly they start and stop when our work naturally integrates with every other part of who we are.

For many of us, LDT is the first place where we’ve found balance. We have more mental, physical, and emotional health here than we’ve ever had working at other companies, and it’s remarkable. A lot of us have athletic backgrounds or interests, which means no one will blink an eye if you suddenly decide to take a break in the middle of the day to go to yoga or do a 5-mile run. If anything, one or two people may ask to join you. And when you’re getting fresh air on a trail run or with your friends at a Tough Mudder on the weekend, it will be hard not to think about our product. How can I improve the user experience? Which feature specs need reframing? Ooh, we should explore a partnership with X!

In this way, work/life integration is a more appropriate value for us at Let’s Do This. We are an early stage startup who recently raised a Series A, and we couldn’t be more excited to realize our vision for the future. We pride ourselves on having the same work ethic and discipline that elite athletes do and would be sad if work and life had to be two separate things. If you’re looking for a job to clock in and out of, don’t come here. But if you want the camaraderie of a team in a competitive sport and want to work alongside other passionate, focused, and determined team members, please reach out – we’d love to talk to you!

You can reach out to Marc, our Head of Engineering, at [email protected].

We have a flexible PTO policy so you can take the time you need to stay sharp and energized.

Everyone on the team is an owner of the business, and we trust everyone to make personal decisions about when to take time off. All full-time employees are also given eight hours of time-off to volunteer or participate in community service per quarter.

Gusties celebrate their first-year anniversary with a #FlyAway round-trip ticket and hotel stay to anywhere in the world. On their second-, third- and fourth-year anniversaries, Gusties receive a #ThrillorChill pass to spend on a thrilling (think skydiving) or relaxing experience (maybe a spa day?)

We’re also incredibly supportive of parents at Gusto. We offer family-friendly benefits like inclusive fertility treatments, parental leave, and free sleep coaching, house-cleaning, food-catering or delivery, and more!

Family and personal well-being always come first.

It’s a startup cliche to expect people to always work long nights and weekends, and a surefire way to lose a team to burnout. At Enigma, it’s important to us that everyone leads full lives both in and out of the office. People shouldn’t have to compromise on personal passions or time with family.

We prioritize physical and mental health and believe in the power of spending time away from the office in order to recharge and refocus. In addition to offering unlimited paid time off, Enigma is closed on all major U.S. holidays—including Election Day—and we have a parental leave policy that gives 20 weeks of paid leave to primary caregivers and 10 weeks to secondary caregivers. We also encourage people to connect with one another on a more personal level, organizing regular happy hours (focused on food and fun conversation, rather than just drinks) and squad outings such as bowling, comedy shows, and cooking classes to get people out of the office.

Early-stage startups are often associated with crazy working hours – that is not the case for us.

We believe engineers do their best work with balance and consistency. We offer flexibility in when you work and make sure that everyone's workload is manageable so that you're not thinking about work once you've signed off for the day. Our on-call rotations are pretty quiet because we go the extra mile to invest in the quality of our platform.

“I thought the startup life would demand hours of my time and folks would be pinging me on weekends and nights. It’s actually quite the opposite,” says David Liu, one of our software engineers.

Having a healthy mind is just as important as having a healthy body. That's why we give engineers a monthly fitness allowance and a wellness allowance.